The Dangers of Cloud Busting
What is a cloud buster?
A Cloud buster refers to a device that was originally invented by Wilhelm Reich. It’s name was given because of its ability to make holes in the clouds, but the common use of cloud buster was invented to create rain, not to remove chemtrails.
What? Yes, to create rain.
The Cloud Buster consists of several copper pipes, with one end generally pointing towards the horizon and the other end connected to flowing water. Don Croft later introduced another type of cloud buster which uses a mix of metal, resin and crystal instead of flowing water for the base of the pipe, and this one is pointed vertically.
Those who know about the cloud buster generally consider it to be the only solution for the prevention of droughts, but contrary to belief , some pretty serious if not dangerous side effects may occur.
Take a look.
Operator safety
There may be health and environmental risks associated with operating a cloud buster machine, in fact in some cases may be so severe especially if the operator is not in perfect mental and physical health.
Please read and take the necessary precautions before attempting to build a cloud buster unit.
Also please read the link below regarding symptoms you need to be aware of, so that you will know if you are now in any danger with your health.
Cemenite Story 2: Od power
Research Summary and Interview on a ‘New’ Method for Drought-Abatement and Desert-Greening: Cloudbusting
Reich observed a working cloud buster could also have negative biological effects upon the operator
SO, YOU WANT TO BUILD A CLOUDBUSTER?
“Also, the operator can receive an overcharge, or dor contamination in their body which can bring on life-threatening sickness, or exacerbate latent or chronic aspects of existing characterological armoring. While therapy certainly reduces these tendencies, it is not an absolute guarantee either.”
Wilhelm REICH Cosmic Orgone Engineering ( CORE )
1) Several of Reich’s assistants were immobilized and greatly sickened by the field effects surrounding his laboratory during the oranur experiment. Later on, similar reactions occurred in the surroundings of operating cloudbusters, particularly during desert and drought operations.
2) A man using a cloudbuster in a California desert touched the pipes with his bare hands. He was paralyzed on one side of his body, and never completely recovered.
3) A cloudbuster operator developed a walnut-sized tumor one day after handling a cloudbuster during a drought. The tumor was eventually eliminated through orgonomic first-aid, involving therapy, use of the accumulator, dor-buster, and detoxification techniques.
4) A medical doctor in Germany used a medical dor-buster on his patients for many years. The apparatus resembles a minature cloudbuster, and functions similarly. He developed a paralysis in the arm he used to work the apparatus, which later spread to his shoulder and the side of his face, after which he died.
5) A man who used a manually operated cloudbuster for many years in droughty situations became quite ill, in spite of many precautions. He eventually developed scleroderma and cancer, which killed him.
6) A man with a history of high blood pressure and a stroke had another debilitating stroke a few days after working as an informal helper on a cloudbuster operation, where his exposure was limited to no more than 15 minutes per day over three days. All the usual precautions had been taken.
7) Other cloudbuster operators have been made very ill from standing too close to the instrument. The biological effects of overcharge, and of what Reich called dor-sickness, have included high fever, muscle cramps, nausea, and diarrhea. Severe skin rashes, hives, and “flu” symptoms have also been observed. Reich noted, the effects of the toxic field around the cloudbuster tends to hit a person at their weakest spot, causing old health problems to flare-up.
Water pollution
Some very serious health risks need to be considered for the operator.
If a cloud buster can cause illness, then it further begs the question ‘ How does it effect the water, which is required for its operation?’ What it will do to people who live near the cloud busting operation?”
Pay Attention:
The following is my correspondence with Joel Carlinsky, a senior in orgonomy science , which is the that study of orgone energy, the theory behind of cloud buster.
I wrote:
“Judging from your pessimism, I am convinced that you don’t know how to prevent DOR infestation. Like how you don’t know how to halt rain after excessive cloud busting or how you don’t know how to reverse over charging of orgone. And just like how using flowing water is the only way to absorb DOR from sky. Judging from your previous post, I am convince that cloud busting activity POLLUTE the water with DOR energy. I never heard anyone in orgonomy mention how to clean the water for reuse in cloud busting. Everyone suggest to throw the water away and leave the nature to clean the DOR. I call that irresponsible.” ~ Sucahyo
Joel Carlinsky answered:
You are correct: the water a DOR-buster is grounded into becomes saturated with DOR. It has been tested by using it to water plants and comparing their growth with the same kind of plants watered with water from the same source that had not been used to ground a DOR-buster. The water from the DOR-buster retarded the plant growth compared to the controls.
And you are also right about it not being environmentally responsible to dispose of the used water carelessly. There is a cloudbusting project in Algeria that has a cloudbuster grounded into a well. It is at an oasis in the desert. The 800 people who live there have no other water supply. That is not a safe place to live, if they have to drink water from a well that has a cloudbuster connected to it in a desert atmosphere where there is a high level of DOR. The health statistics in that village would be—- interesting.” ~Joel Carlinsky
Joel Carlinsky explain more about this on his blog:
BAD WATER
The cause of Disaster?
Another problem is a cloud busting operations can easily be overdone and result in natural disaster.
Research Summary and Interview on a ‘New’ Method for Drought-Abatement and Desert-Greening: Cloudbusting
“In Eritrea, we were looking at 3 decades of dryness and below-normal rains in an already dry region, where the Sahara Desert had been slowly spreading southward over that same time period. Even so, good saturating rains came quickly after our first operations, and most every other operation thereafter. And the rains in Eritrea were widespread and soaking, lasting all day into the evening, of a kind that older residents confirmed they had not seen since childhood.”
OROP ISRAEL 1991-1992: Cloudbusting Experiment
“Rains began falling in Israel on November 27, as the storm arrived at the coast, and rains continued for the next week. Good to heavy rains also fell across Lebanon, Cyprus, and Turkey, ending only around December 7th. A 50-year rainfall record was broken in Israel. It is significant to note this was the very same storm which was previously observed as a Mediterranean weather front near Italy on November 21
Israel, the West Bank territories, and northwest Jordan received the greatest portion of these rains, from 200 to 400 percent of normal. By December 7, some Israeli and Jordanian regions had received nearly 90% of the normal annual rainfall. The mountains in Turkey, Cyprus, Syria and Lebanon received unexpected heavy snows, and several rivers in the mountains of Cyprus were flowing with water for the first time in years.
By December 15, the level of Lake Kinneret was up 60 cm from the red line! Rains were also still progressing in Turkey, Cyprus, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Israel and Egypt. New storms pushed into the area with heavy snow after December 31st; Jerusalem received a record 16″ of snow, while 24″ fell in Amman Jordan.
From early newspaper reports, and from our own observations made later in February, flooded farm fields could be seen everywhere”
OROP ARIZONA 1989: Cloudbusting Experiment
“After one day of operations, a large complex of thunderstorms developed just to the east of our site.
A “mild” earthquake, magnitude 5.2 on the Richter scale, and some highly unusual “earthquake weather” occurred north of the San Francisco Bay area.
Yuma, Arizona, received two years’ rainfall in one week, and other Arizona and southern California stations likewise experienced heavy rains, and some flooding of low-lying desert topography was reported. More rains broke out across the entire Great Basin region in subsequent days and continued through the month. By the end of August, the region near to the cloudbusting site had received a whopping 500% of its normal summertime rainfall.”
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This link contains many examples of cloud buster misuse, such as :
“At one point, while he boasted of having brought some rains to his dry region, the nearby areas of Tropical Africa were suffering under massive rainstorms and flooding which displaced hundreds of thousands of villagers, killing many hundreds.”
“His operations had merely pushed the dry Sahara air mass off to the Northeast, where it contaminated the Eastern Mediterranean, bringing drought and massive wildfires to Greece, where additional tens of thousands had to run for their lives, and additional hundreds were killed. “
“This predictably triggered a strong electrical storm, and six people were struck by lightning.”
“His actions with the cloudbuster triggered a massive storm system in the Mediterranean Sea which hit land and created massive flooding in his local region, killing ten people.”
Wilhelm REICH Cosmic Orgone Engineering ( CORE )
PINCER II demonstrated the anomalous diversion – 240 miles out of its normal path into Arizona – of rain that made July 86 the wettest July in 100 years. The attendant, anomalous thunder and lightning storm left 300,000 Los Angeles residents without electricity.
What about larger regions?
Cloud buster may also influence weather hundreds of miles away!
SO, YOU WANT TO BUILD A CLOUDBUSTER?
“It is therefore important to keep in mind that any kind of long-term desert-greening project runs the risk of long-distance and possibly long-term negative effects. “
“Several catastrophes along these lines have already been witnessed, from haphazard operations undertaken by inadequately trained individuals in Seattle (point #20, above) who merely wanted to cool down their vicinity and had not the wisdom to look how their operations were affecting other regions,”
The Cloudbuster of Wilham Reich
“The orgone energy envelope – the womb of the weather — is highly sensitive, continuous, and responsive on a vast and elastic scale to stimuli from cloudbusters. Because of continuity of this energy envelope, the effects of such stimuli can extend over millions of square miles. Billions of tons of atmosphere and atmospheric water vapor can be decisively affected in their concentration, distribution and general behavior.”
Effective?
Cloud busting operation said to restore the health of nature. However, so far I still hear that in there is drought in Arizona, USA where cloud busting is in use, why? Evidence shows us that while the cloud buster machine is indeed an effective tool to invite a flood, it is not an effective tool to prevent drought.
Reich said that the cloud buster is used to to restore the atmosphere’s health without creating rain. So far every cloud busting operation is only concerned creating rain. People fail to realize that they now have to rely on cloud buster to make rain, they don’t realize that their job is supposed to allow rain with out their intervention.
Does it clear up Chemtrails?
Trevor Constable – Dangers Of Cloudbuster Technology
“Well, you know the energy that goes around the earth is in constant motion, its moving faster than the earth in a gigantic envelope and while you may get rid of the chemtrail that you see above you, you do not know that it is not going to have an effect within 24 or 36 hours over in Africa somewhere.”
“I wouldn’t try to get rid of them (chemtrails) with cloudbusters, that’s for sure.” ~Trevor Constable
Slim Spurling Meets Trevor James Constable
“‘One of the biggest problems you encounter with a Cloudbuster is that they create such complex remote effects. I have worked with batteries of tubes out in the desert where we were impacting the weather patterns over eight or nine states — you could see it on the satellite weather reports. It makes you stop and think. Knowing how to pull the circumpolar vortex that goes around the Canadian border all the way down into the California interior, sounds like a whole lot of fun, and it isn’t that hard to do. But if the distance effects generate huge deluges of rain in Texas you need to be knowledgeable enough to get a handle on that or you shouldn’t be doing this kind of work.’
‘The energy that goes around the Earth is in constant motion, moving faster than the Earth in a gigantic envelope at the equator and in other energy flows in the temperate zones! It’s crazy to tinker with that force if you don’t know how it operates. What the part-time Cloudbuster jockeys don’t understand is that when you get rid of the chemtrails in the sky above you, or you make it rain in your back yard, you don’t know what kind of an effect this will create within 24 or 36 hours over in Africa somewhere. And what makes it more complicated is that conventional science is doing a lot of nefarious things with the atmosphere — most people don’t know this — and what they are doing conflicts with the type of energy we’re working with. You can’t just go around aiming a Cloudbuster anywhere you please without a great deal of study.'”
Amplify radioactive radiation
Reich device has history of amplifying radioactivity. Cloud busting operation should not be done in a radioactive polluted environment.
Panacea University cloud busting documnet (PDF)
“Under no conditions should you have any electrical wires, electrical instruments of any kind, or any radioactive material near a cloud buster during any operation. Severe health problems may result.”
The encounter of Reich with radioactive material resulted in disaster:
Wilhelm Reich Essay : Part Three
“Reich placed a one milligram radium needle in a one-ply accumulator. He then placed that into a 20-ply accumulator and left it in a laboratory room constructed out of accumulator materials:
“Reich paid close attention to the sensations he and many of his co-workers experienced, such as a salty taste on the tongue; a severe pressure in the depth of the cheekbone; nausea; loss of appetite; sensations of weakness; a ringlike pressure around the forehead; sensitivity in the diaphragmatic segment; pallor; and feelings of cold shivers alternating with hot flashes…”
“Reich rapidly conceptualized the first surprising results of the Oranur experiment: Contrary to expectations, orgone energy had not counteracted nuclear energy but rather nuclear energy had altered orgone energy”
“For the next six days he placed the experimental radium in the twenty-fold accumulator for an hour each day. On [the seventh day], it remained there for only half an hour. Soon after the radium was deposited, Reich and several persons with him noted that the atmosphere in the laboratory had become clouded. It showed a blue to purplish color through the glass windows. Reich felt sick to his stomach and dizzy…”
Also read this link bellow:
http://journal.borderlands.com/1986/kent-on-reich-oranur-experiment/
“While the radium was within the charging device, accurate measurement was not possible because the instrument, the SU-5 Survey Meter would either race right off the scale or go completely dead….The last time that the radium was placed inside the 20 layer Accumulator was to prove so dramatic that for fear of possible consequences, the experiment was stopped….It was noticed that reassembling even one Orgone charging device would immediately cause the background radiation measurements to approximately double….Basically, the presence of a strong concentration of Orgone Energy seems to amplify and magnify the radiation from a nuclear source.”
Note that the above article seems to consider only one type of orgone energy. In reality, there is orgone energy that neutralize radioactive. For more information, please read cemenite series article.
There is an opposing opinion though:
The Ultimate Reality by Joseph H. Cater
“a Reich cloub-buster pointed at a radioactive material would cause it to lose its radioactivity! This has been proven to be the case. For example, a glowing piece of radium stops radiating when it is placed in front of a clouds-buster.”
Don Croft’s cloud buster can also be unhealthy:
Is Don Croft’s cloud buster better than Reich’s Cloud Buster?
Some people still experience problems:
Orgone experiences and perspectives
“The last straw was the nonphysical attacks campaign began happening to me. These attacks ranged from unnatural negative thoughts being placed into my mind, my health deteriorating in various ways and other things.”
Heaven and Earth – A Sea Change, March and May of 2008
“Shortly after he built his first CB , Dan buried it in the yard by his house. After some days however, he and the other members of his household began to develop headaches and other discomfort. When the severity of these symptoms gradually increased over time, he removed the base of the CB from the ground, the symptoms disappearing almost immediately. He experimented again several times, burying other orgonite devices with pipes, always with similar unpleasant results.”
Even James Demeo give severe warning that only qualified people are allowed to do cloud busting:
SO, YOU WANT TO BUILD A CLOUDBUSTER?
“Cloudbusting requires more of the people who engage in it than the mere “desire” to “get involved”, or to “make rain”, or the mere mechanical ability to assemble a few pipes and wave them about in the air. For safe and effective operations to occur, the operator must firstly have a high degree of personal health, and secondly to know exactly what they are doing, and why. They must have a good working knowledge of the cloudbusting techniques and methods which have been worked out over the last 35 years. They must be educated in basic climatology and atmospheric dynamics. Additionally, and most importantly, the cloudbuster operator must not possess any significant degree of biophysical, emotional armoring. They must be emotionally fluid, with a capacity for full bioenergetic contact with the natural environment. They must possess the capability of perceptively understanding the unspoken language of the living, which is energetically expressed in the atmosphere and landscape. This is important both for the outcomes of cloudbusting operations, that they not produce erratic or damaging weather reactions, but also because biophysical armoring places the cloudbuster operator at great risk for their health.
It must always be kept in mind that the cloudbuster is a tool by which the atmosphere is restored to a state of self-regulated functioning. It is not a “weather modification” apparatus, like cloudseeding, where the atmosphere is forced to do this or that, or is “pushed about” to do something it normally would not do. Anyone wishing to work with a cloudbuster must therefore have an intuitive, gut-level grasp of the concept of atmospheric self-regulation.”
Backward thinking
I believe that to restore the condition of the environment, we must not use anything that make us feel bad. Unfortunately, some people think this is part of cleaning process. They think a protection device should make you more sensitive to bad energy, when it suppose to be the opposite. Here is an example:
http://www.ethericwarriors.com/ip/viewtopic.php?p=3494
“I drove into this area, letting myself be guided by the orgonite in my car. When its qi-emanation became strongest, I parked the car, and walked aways into the forest.
There I dug up some dirt, and placed over it a standard CB-stabilizer, in which the six holes had been bored just big enough so that I could easily pound the pipes through them, the pipes forming the vertices of a regular hexagon. Then I removed the stabilizer and hammered the pipes straight down, all the way into the ground, so that they seemed as if they were the pipes of a CB pointed down.Then I placed an ordinary TB on top of each pipe end, so that the six TBs formed a ring.
As soon as I had finished, I felt a strong queasiness, since the apparatus had immediately begun to attract DOR and transform it. I have had similar nauseous feelings before, in places filled with pain or DOR, at the time they were gifted with orgonite. I interpret such symptomatic of the first stage of clearing the place.
It takes a certain amount of time for the pain or queasiness to leave, and the atmosphere to clear itself. Therefor I went out of the forest somewhere else for awhile. About 15 minutes later I returned and found the feeling of the place to be already better. The air was now free of mist and the atmosphere both clear and pleasant.”
The article contain some weird statement.
1. “letting myself be guided by the orgonite in my car. When its qi-emanation became strongest”. If orgonite protect him, why would he became more sensitive to bad qi?
2. “As soon as I had finished, I felt a strong queasiness, since the apparatus had immediately begun to attract DOR and transform it”. Why would he had to feel “a strong queasiness”? That is strange logic for me. If his device convert bad energy to good energy, then what he should felt is feeling very comfortable instead of feeling uncomfortable.
3. “It takes a certain amount of time for the pain or queasiness to leave”. What would happen if this action is done in a hospital? Wouldn’t this can be very dangerous to the patient?
4. “The air was now free of mist”. Why free of mist is an indication of good action? Sacred place commonly have mist, is that a bad sign? In power engineering, places with more negative ion (good energy) usually have mist. I also notice more mist in my area every since I start to use cemenite, and I believe that my weather condition improved a lot than last year, even from media perspective.
Summary
With all considered and previously experimented with in regards to the different types of cloud busters, do they actually work for the benefit of humans and the environment, and can augmenting the chemtrail pollution be done so safely by the common citizen? This seems to be the big question. At the very least, extreme caution should be taken . If you decide to construct a cloud buster of your own, you should consider the risks involved, and that you are not just modifying the weather but also impacting other peoples lives as well. With this in mind , please heed the warnings in this article, examine the facts of prior experiments and experiences of others laid out here.
As with anything else folks, take responsibility, heed the warnings implied, and by all means monitor all that you are doing. Do your homework! If in the end you actually cause more harm than good, you are ultimately the person who has to live with this decision. And your neighbor? Well they involuntarily become a victim of a scientific project gone bad. No matter what way you slice it, responsibility is key.
A large dose of responsibility is what one needs to consider before entering the realm of weather modification. After all , we the people have taken a stance AGAINST geoengineering and the likes! Let’s not be part of the ongoing problem.
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Written By,
Sucahyo
Staff writer for The Truth Denied