“Don’t Be Fooled”: The Indefinite Detention Bill DOES Apply to American Citizens”
These were the headlines on the Washington’s Blog December 2011 the author goes on to say that “Even at this 11th hour – when all of our liberties and freedom are about to go down the drain – many people still don’t understand that the indefinite detention bill that passed by Congress allows indefinite detention of Americans on American soil.”
Indeed the signing of the S. 1867 NDAA Bill by President Obama on December 31, 2011 is alarming to some, and means nothing to most. That’s because Obama and his administration aren’t really talking about the new bill, and mainstream media pays little or no attention to the implications of the indefinite detainment of citizens by our own military. No one seems to care about our eroding rights in this country, and alternative media seems to be the only one reporting on this NDAA at the moment.
On December 1, 2011, The United States Senate evaded answering the question regarding American’s constitutional rights in relationship to the section of the bill that refers to clarify the rights of American, can we become unlawfully detained in our own country and can we be held indefinitely without warrant or due process? The New York Times did do a little blurb on the subject and reported “WASHINGTON — The Senate on Thursday decided to leave unanswered a momentous question about constitutional rights in the war against Al Qaeda: whether government officials have the power to arrest people inside the United States and hold them in military custody indefinitely and without a trial. “
The Associated press released a story and that said:
Senator Lindsey Graham says “American Qaeda suspects arrested in the United States should not be exempted from battlefield-style detention. Senator Mike Lee disagrees.”
Security Captchas on Facebook and other social media sights, what are they all about?
After a passionate debate over a detainee-related provision in a major defense bill, the lawmakers decided not to make clearer the current law about the rights of Americans suspected of being terrorists. Instead, they voted 99 to 1 to say the bill does not affect “existing law” about people arrested inside the United States.
“We make clear that whatever the law is, it is unaffected by this language in our bill,” said Senator Carl Levin, a Michigan Democrat who helped shape the detainee-related sections of the bill with Republicans on the Senate Armed Services Committee.
Justice O’Connor had also stressed that the ruling was limited to “a United States citizen captured in a foreign combat zone” while active combat there was in progress, a different context from a domestic arrest. (She also wrote, “Certainly, we agree that indefinite detention for the purpose of interrogation is not authorized.”)
*Except the bill does not make this distinction whatsoever.
What were Obama’s remarks regarding the NDAA? “The fact that I support this bill as a whole does not mean I agree with everything in it,” Mr. Obama said in a statement issued in Hawaii, where he is on vacation.
Now look at the section of the bill that Obama has issues with.
The President stated “I have signed this bill despite having serious reservations with certain provisions that regulate the detention, interrogation and prosecution of suspected terrorists.” ~President Barrack Obama
By the way, has the US military or government even defined what a “domestic terrorist” actually is yet? And when did our military EVER have the right to arrest civilians on our own territory? The answer is NEVER in the history of the USA. Isn’t that a job for the police force?
Here’s the deal. I think the government is closing in on us, and fast. In another couple of years, the USA’s Domestic Terrorist List will grow to include us all.
You are on the lists with
Airports and TSA: Illegal search and seizure just to board an airplane. Public transportation such as busses and subways can now further detain you if they “suspect” you are a terrorist.
Ever heard of the No Fly List? Are you on it?
Patriot Act: Illegal search and seizure of your home as well as business if you are suspected of being a “terrorist”. Wiretapping, drone technology, infrared technology, all capable of spying on you, violates your right to privacy.
If you think our own military will not arrest us under suspicion of domestic terrorism, then you need to read this. A study conducted over the past 10 years asking our military personal some pretty serious questions regarding their ability to arrest and American citizens on US Soil.
It states “The story is that a survey has been handed out among all U.S. fighting personnel which prepares them for forsaking their allegiance to the President of the United States in favor of serving under the United Nations and which asks about whether they would be willing to shoot civilians who would not submit to a government controlled ban on guns. “
Check out the actual survey:
DD Form 3206 (Rev 2/96)
JOINT SERVICES TRAINING COMBAT ARMS SURVEY
This questionnaire is to gather data concerning the attitudes of combat trained personnel with regard to non-traditional missions. All responses are confidential and official.
Write your answers directly on the form. In Part II, place an “X” in the space provided for your response.
Part A (Confidential when filled in)
Part 1. Demographics.
1. Branch of Service:
Army [ ] USAF [ ] Navy [ ] Marines [ ] ANG [ ] NG [ ] USCG [ ] Other:[________]
2. Pay Grade: (E-6, O-4, etc): [_____________]
3. MOS, AFSC or Specialty Code and Description: [_____________]
4. Highest level of education: Less than 12 [ ] 13 [ ] 14 [ ] 15 [ ] 16 [ ] More than 16 [ ]
5. How many months did you serve in Operation Desert Storm/Desert Shield? [___]
6. How many months did you serve in Somalia? [___]
7. Where did you spend most of your childhood? City: [____] County: [____] State: [____]
[Strongly Disagree] [Disagree] [Agree] [Strongly Agree] [No Opinion]
“I would fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the United States government.
END OF SURVEY.
William Cooper spoke about the endgame of the New World Order’s agenda by means of “disarming the public”. He also spoke about FEMA camps, and saw a time in the near future where the entire imprisonment of humanity would take place.
In his book book Behold a Pale Horse , he says to the reader,
“Like it or not, everything is changing. The result will be the most wonderful experience in the history of man or the most horrible enslavement that you can imagine. Be active or abdicate, the future is in your hands.” ~ William Cooper, October 24, 1989
Want to see the S. 1867 NDAA for yourself? Take a close look at the following from LAWFARE:
Does the NDAA Authorize Detention of US Citizens?
Yes and no.
Here is why the Bill is so confusing:
According to LAWFARE:
“This obviously rules out the idea of a mandatory military detention for US citizens. But note that it tends to rule in the idea that the baseline grant of detention authority in 1031 does in fact extend to citizens. Otherwise there would be no need for exclusion for citizens in section 1032, since the 1032 category is a subset of the larger 1031 category.”
At the end of the day, we have more programs, bills, laws and a number of executive orders that play right into this NDAA. It is an agenda of sorts, and this will remain an ongoing debate, at least the more the citizens of the USA learn the better off we will be. WE THE PEOPLE must begin to force government to answer the important questions; we must question the Powers that Be in hopes that one day we can get this country back into the hands of its own people.
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