An obvious hole in a stratus deck due to cloud seeding with aircraft, using dry ice as a seeding agent. This is an example of cold cloud seeding, where supercooled cloud droplets are converted into ice crystals, which then precipitate out of the cloud deck. (USAF photo; boxed caption in the lower right reads "Effects of seeding Altostratus Clouds over Green Bay, Labrador: 45 minutes after seeding with dry ice". Photo and boxed caption obtained from Sewell, W.R.D., et. al., 1973: Modifying the Weather; Western Geographical Series, Vol. 9, University of Victoria, Victoria, British Columbia, Canada).


There is a growing awareness around the world  of  those white checkerboard  lines in our skies,  better known as chemtrails. Unfortunately, many of the witnesses are assuming that the cloud seeding operation and chemtrails are one in the same.This is a false assumption. There is  a significant difference between people who did cloud seeding operations and those who did chemtrails.

 

So what’s the difference?

For one, cloud seeding is performed  in lower altitudes, generally under 10 thousand feet, or where rain clouds accumulate, nimbus clouds. Chemtrails are being sprayed at much higher altitudes, generally  much higher than rain clouds, at stratosphere, where cirrus clouds reside. Trails are known to cause cirrus clouds so much that term invented to call them, contrails cirrus.

 

According to the official statement.
South Texas Weather Modification Association FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTION
12. Is there any link between cloud seeding and chemtrails?
No. STWMA, along with the WMA, is unaware of any connection between cloud seeding as is practiced by our program and to what some refer to as “chemtrails” (chemical trails). Contrails are normally observed on otherwise clear days, when cloud seeding would not be conducted. The cloud seeding nuclei from ground or airborne sources do not produce such visible clouds.

There is nothing wrong in that statement. Because they are simply different.

The video here depicts cloud seeding in   Thailand , which by the way pioneered cloud seeding.

What exactly is cloud seeding?
Cloud seeding is a technique that basically  forces rain clouds to  produce more rainfall. It seed existing low altitude rain clouds to allow them to produce rain. It is not possible to do cloud seeding without the existance of rain clouds. The cloud seeding instruction manual require the precense of some rain clouds, because other wise it will produce a longer drought.

Texas Weather Modification Frequently Asked Questions
Not all cumulus clouds become rain producers. In fact, only a small percentage of them ever develop the capability to yield an appreciable amount of rainfall. Those convective clouds that do produce rainwater are often inefficient: For all the moisture they incorporate from below, only a tiny fraction of that moisture (as cloud droplets) is ever used to grow large raindrops, which ultimately fall to the ground as rainfall. This may be due to the fact that an insufficient number of ice particles exists within the cloud, thereby limiting the amount of cloud droplets that can coalesce to create raindrops. Or the clouds simply do not live long enough, on their own, to allow those tiny cloud droplets to collide enough times with neighboring droplets to yield larger drops–and eventually rainwater. Seeding is intended to introduce into the cloud many more of these ice crystals (also called cloud nuclei) to allow much more of the moisture supply within the cloud to be converted into rainwater.

If done in a timely way and properly, cloud seeding can assist the natural process in clouds by giving them enough “seeds” to make a meaningful number of large raindrops. If a lot of the growing convective cloud has pushed upwards above the freeze level, the bulk of the cloud water above that freeze level becomes supercooled (which is to say, the cloud droplets remain in liquid form and do not turn into ice). But those supercooled cloud droplets readily attach to an ice crystal (natural or artificial), converting the ice crystal into a tiny snowflake or graupel, which can quickly grow into a raindrop before the cloud begins to collapse.

Silver iodide is a favored seeding agent because its crystalline structure is nearly identical to the natural ice crystal. When placed in the upper portion of the growing convective cloud rich with supercooled droplets, the silver iodide crystal can grow rapidly by tapping that vast field of available moisture. Indeed, because the vapor pressure gradient over ice is less than that over water, an ice crystal such as silver iodide will more readily attract the tiny cloud droplets than those droplets will collide with each other. In a matter of moments, the ice crystal is transformed into a large raindrop which is heavy enough to fall through the cloud mass as a rain shaft.

YOU TUBE, subscribe to us bannerChemtrails produce the opposite results
While chemtrails do create clouds, it would be high altitude clouds, with a recognizable specific unnatural repeated pattern. Chemtrails have eliminated low altitude rain clouds (which is a  requirement of cloud seeding), warm the atmosphere and the ground. The trails can be seen because they absorb surrounding water, this reduce the chance of rain, which create drought conditions. Not only that, the next rain will pour down heavier, because of the colection of all the failed rain, create intense and long rain, creating flood after long period of drought. The drought and the flood soon after will devastate crop and produce significant damage to the civilization and environment. The released particle also reduce ozone layer and increase the chance of acid rain which also damaging to the environment.

Cloud seeding usually done for people’s benefit. It has been used to ease hurricane, to reduce rain in the land by forcing the rain to fall more at the ocean, to produce more rain during drought, to stop forest fire that can cause smoke that can hamper the activity of a lot of people. Cloud seeding was done to save people.

Cloud seeding is the farmers friend, chemtrails on the other hand, are the farmers enemy. Thailand’s farmers really love their king who improved the way to make rain. Thailand’s king is the scientist behind Thailand famous rain making operation. See more here:
Father of Royal Rainmaking.

The means of delivering aerosols differs. Cloud seeding were usually done with a slow propeller plane, much like a crop duster. Chemtrails are always seen coming from high speed jet planes. The proof can be seen on thousands of websites throughout the world via photos  taken daily by the general public. Just GOOGLE the word Chemtrail, check it out for yourselves.

Video below exemplifies a plane spraying salt right on top of rain clouds:

 

Cloud seeding is done with relatively safe material.  Cloud seeding uses silver iodide, whereas known components of  chemtrails are sulfur dioxide or aluminum oxide. Problems and sickness related to chemtrails match closely to both oxide, not the silver iodide used in cloud seeding operations.

Some people use silver colloid as cure. Iodine is also a recommended mineral suplement. Both combine into silver iodide. Material safety Datasheet indicate that silver iodide can produce irritation at the event of ingestion or skin contact. Others use NaCl salt, just like table salt that we usually add to our food.

In the video below, you will see that the passenger is actually sitting next to the material for the cloud seeding operation, right inside of  the cockpit. Available photos for chemtrails show tanks, not plastic bags. We could also see patterned clouds lingering at higher altitudes, similar to jet contrails formed after they are materialized in our skies daily.

In that video we can see the worker tear apart the NaCl salt container and pour it to clouds at 8000 feet, some of the worker do not even use mask. The ship, Lockheed C-130 Hercules, belong to the Army, fly through the rain clouds for two hours of seeding, was carrying 4 tons of NaCl.

We should be careful not to condemn an operation that clearly produces good results and benefit to people. Cloud seeding results is in contrast with chemtrails. Chemtails can cause an array of illnesses to all living things on the planet, including humans. Clearly there are no known benefits to chemtrails.

Still, let’s keep in mind that  just like other geoengineering and cloud modification programs, cloud seeding may also  invite disaster. We know now that Thailand  has endured severe flooding after cloud experimentations have been performed.  Queensland Australia, which was also hit by severe and disastrous  flooding earlier this year  were also associated with cloud seeding programs. China, who used missiles for cloud seeding also reported heavy to  severe flooding .

Now you know the difference between general cloud seeding programs and chemtrails based on there ingredients, would you say that either  of these programs should be allowed to continue without the public’s consent?  The last I checked, I personally  did not approve any of these weather modification programs, nor did any of my friends. I am sure of one thing though, that Science is playing God with all of our lives, and in the case of chemtrails, it  hasn’t proven to be anything but one giant covert operation based on money and greed.

Of course, that is just one mans opinion, for whatever it’s worth.

Links:
Cloud seeding were used to reduce hazardous haze of forest fire
Report and result of cloud seeding operation in Thailand (pdf file)
Cloud seeding operation detail and example around the world (pdf file)

 

 

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By sucahyo

Free energy and health device researcher

19 thoughts on “Cloud Seeding is NOT Chemtrails”
    1. Thanks for the head up. I hope you do not use orgonite or cloud buster.

      If this is your invention I hope you realize that the goal is not to make rain fall as much as possible but to make rain fall more frequent. drizzle or light rain twice a day instead of excessive rain each sunday.

      creating excessive rain is not any different than what chemtrails produce. So I hope you pursue daily rain instead.

      Here are some other sign that I believe is the correct way:
      – you will have hole in the cirrus clouds. Your sky will be more blue / less white than other
      – you will have more nimbus clouds / low clouds / big fluffy clouds above you that other
      – you will not experience extreme weather. Less lightning, less drought, less flood, less high wind, less hail storm, etc.
      – you will see more wild birds flying or chirping around your home.
      – plants grow better

      To achieve this I use cemenite. Sadly, more and more people use orgonite that produce bad effect to weather.

  1. If the outcome is identical – harm to humanity, animals, soil, water who cares why (cloud seeding or otherwise) or where (higher or lower altitudes) they are doing it????

    1. It is detrimental for the movement to accuse the wrong people. Country that did cloud seeding are trying to reduce the damage by nature. They know the risk and limitation. They are trying to combat the bad effect of chemtrails.

      It is also important for rouge weather modificator to know the difference. They are now stupidly trying to bust the natural low clouds and actually supporting the artificial high clouds and end up worsening the bad effect of chemtrails.

      1. I would like to know more about this. Sucahyo, you mentioned ” They are trying to combat the bad effect of chemtrails.” WHO is trying to combat the chemtrails and with what please?

        1. Orgonite group with their orgonite and chembuster try to eliminate chemtrails without observing the real effect of their action. So their result end up producing more extreme weather. Many people that use orgonite become chemtrails denier because they failed to get positive result.

          That is also why I start researching cemenite and now use cemenite.

  2. Hello, I live in the front range in the rocky mountains and I have noticed during the last 4 rains that there are fine pieces of rock in the rain drops. These rains leave everything covered with fine pieces of rock. I have been keeping samples of these fine particulates. Can anyone shed any light on this?

    LV Thompson

    1. Thanks for writing into us LV. I have not heard of rocks in the raindrops before, but we would be happy to help you out. Do you have the samples and photos of them as well?

      Thanks,
      The Truth Denied Team

    2. what is the color of the rock? if it is grey then it could be from faraway volcano ash. Or other ash. Previously other people report about fiber rain. Unfortunately the research were halted.
      Fiber growth found in rain water samples!!!! You can help!

      We are experiencing what appears to be a “new era” in the Chemtrails game; “growth” in our rainwater. While we first saw heavy metals, we are now seeing heavy metals along with what appears to be biological growth. At first the “growth” seemed to be only transported via Chem-Web but now we are seeing it in rain samples, studied over time (take a look at the photo below of an enclosed rain sample over 30+ days of refrigeration; notice the white fiber growth).

      Morgellons Disease Case Definition

      — Update 1st Week of September 2010 —
      “Last week very light rain fell out of a clear blue Cyprus sky. I placed a few droplets under my scope. The droplets all contained a copper colour nucleus of some sort. I captured on camera morgellons fibres leaving some of these drops.”

  3. seeing twenty planes aday seeding incoming cloud fronts in Illinois USA for last 2years increasing activity high altitude jet not normal tails lasing days and weeks

  4. You’re wrong. Cloud seeding flares pretty much always have metals other than silver iodide, like aluminum and other processed metals which can burn at the immense altitude and under wet conditions. Silver Iodide alone would not be able to burn like the Cloud Seeding flares do.

  5. This is great! A good 101 topic, because I have some days wondered if the on-off spray was ‘cloud-seeding’ and the desire to be wrong about chemtrails is alluring. so once again I am faced with the fact that I am not seeing anything good up there – in fact I had not heard before ‘Chemtrails eliminate rain clouds, eliminate the chance of rain’ although just watching this past summer convinced me this was the case. We had the driest summer on record. Just as an aside – the ‘drought’ was blamed on the spring floods in the media – not on no rain!!! Good article and I will pass it along.

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